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By: nath

It looks like sole proprietorships aren't covered under the proposed bill (it only affects chains, from what I gather). So to answer your question, I don't know. But even disregarding that I think the...

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By: COBRA!

What these laws amount to, IMHO, is a slap in the face to free speech. The government is compelling the companies to speak. That's an interesting angle to free-speech protection. I've never thought of...

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By: tr33hggr

Should the Hyundai dealer put signs on his car that state "Risk of dying in this car- Much higher than a Volvo"?Not the same thing, as others have already pointed out better than I could. It'd be more...

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By: trharlan

err, sole.

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By: trharlan

What if the restaurant is a sloe proprietorship, nath?

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By: nath

Two points: Should the Hyundai dealer put signs on his car that state "Risk of dying in this car- Much higher than a Volvo"? Not the same thing, as others have already pointed out better than I could....

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By: plenty

If you support mandatory fast-food labeling, but you are opposed to the other disclosures I suggest, I'd like to know why. Because for the other types of disclosure you mentioned, no-one has yet put...

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By: gyc

Will consumers ever bother to read them? No. I tend to agree. Before going to just about any chain restaurant, I'll read up on the nutritional information on the website, if it is available. I think if...

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By: transona5

But the important part of this legislation is that it applies to places like Denny's or Applebee's, not that it makes the information more accessible at McDonald's.

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By: dg

Will consumers ever bother to read them? No.

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By: Witty

Thanks for clearing that up mr_roboto. I almost shed a tear when I read the comment about frying prosciutto... a matter of opinion of course. But I just think it's much better as is. Fresh bacon can be...

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By: transona5

You shouldn't have to take a nutrition class to puzzle out what might be in your food. Were you guys against mandatory ingredient labeling too? The Hyundai example doesn't hold up. The labels don't say...

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By: sadie01221975

I use CalorieKing for such information.

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By: JollyWanker

In defense of several fast food chains: I recently was diagnosed with serious hypertension. Part of the solution to it is an equally serious change in diet. McDonald's, Wendy's, Kentucky Fried Chicken...

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By: mr_roboto

Actually, for your nitrate free bacon needs I recommend prosciutto. Prosciutto isn't a bacon; it's a ham. Perhaps you're thinking of pancetta, a classic Italian bacon? Traditionally-prepared pancetta...

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By: thomcatspike

Hmm, this sandwich is good, but missing a certain something. Let's deep fry the &ucker!" or maybe a customer said can you deep fry this and the owner said yummy. Fried food is bad for you too,...

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By: thomcatspike

Also, it seems unfair to single out chain restaurants. Can't people gain just as much weight eating at locally owned restaurants? Why not require labels there as well? For fair practice all eating...

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By: trharlan

Well, COBRA!, as I linked earlier, they provide the information already, in print at the restaurants, on the web, etc. Anyone with a library card can get the information, via the web. Anyone with a...

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By: substrate

The local KFC has a posterboard with most of the nutritional information for the menu items. KFC has this? Do they also list the LD50?

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By: Karmakaze

I use this as a resource: Dotti's. Admittedly, it's Weight Watcher's biased, but basically, this women checks the restaurant websites and, when necassary, writes letters requesting the information....

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By: Vetinari

herc: signaling out chain restaurants, as you say, has three benefits. One, you cover a majority of restaurants (as the conglomeration process of American restaurants is pretty much complete) with a...

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By: sharksandwich

Herc: I agree, some of the greasy spoons out there must have huge monthly butter bills. I shudder to think about the calories/fat in a Monte Cristo. I can just imagine how it's creation went...

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By: COBRA!

This sort of lawmaking disgusts me. Damn statists. trharlan- What's so infuriating about mandating that information be provided? Restricting people's freedom to choose is a very bad thing, I agree, but...

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By: substrate

Actually, for your nitrate free bacon needs I recommend prosciutto. If made properly it's only cured, no preservatives or even smoke. A nice thing piece in the frying pan is very tasty.

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By: transona5

I've seen 350 calories for a bagel - maybe it's those enormous, overstuffed bagel-chain ones, though.

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By: stbalbach

a slice of bacon has about a tenth as many calories as a bagel. An egg bagel Calories: 163 Fat: 1.4g Protein: 6g Cholesterol: 8mg Bacon (1 slice) Calories: 36 Fat: 3.1 Protein: 1.9g Cholesterol: 5mg...

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By: PigAlien

The more information the consumer has, the better. That's all there is to it. Retail merchants in any industry have very little incentive to provide the consumer with information. You can't legislate...

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By: transona5

Yes. Yes, they do. Nutrition is anything but obvious. Sure, a supersized anything is bigger than the non-supersized version at the same place, but how big is a regular portion compared to what you'd...

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By: mkultra

Do people really need nutritional information to know that a Big Mac is unhealthy? No, but you'd be surprised how many people think that a Filet-O-Fish is healthy, or think that supersizing that order...

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By: trharlan

Theyareavailablealready, for the most part. This sort of lawmaking disgusts me. Damn statists.

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By: herc

Do people really need nutritional information to know that a Big Mac is unhealthy? Or that "super-sizing" an order of french/freedom fries means more fat and calories? Requiring this information...

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By: Ufez Jones

I've been pining for something like this for a long time. They don't even have to be on the menu, just make them available separately for those that wish not to know what they're putting in their body....

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By: transona5

But it's not like they're requiring some kind of warning label to persuade people into making healthy choices. It's just neutral information. It's very hard to estimate the amount of calories in a food...

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By: swerdloff

Yes, Yes, and No. You can't legislate people into doing what is good for them. Otherwise, drugs wouldn't be a problem, booze and cigs wouldn't be popular, and condom usage would be 100% except in...

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By: transona5

Sounds like a good idea, but I'm suspicious of anything that involves CSPI. It sounds like they're printing the total number of fat grams, not saturated or trans fat - that's based on pretty oudated...

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Fat of the land

What's on the menu? Perhaps fat and calories. "Five states have taken up similar bills this year, with none being passed so far." Will bills like these ever get passed? Will we ever see nutrition facts...

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